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of peter. >> reporter: benedict seemed to many a reluctant pope, as cardinal ratzinger under john paul ii, he was known as a conservative guardian of church doctrine, opposing women priests, abortion and homosexuality. as pope, he inherited the church's biggest scandal in decades. revelations that priests had sexually abused children. he met with victims and apologized. >> for all, i express my deep sorrow to the innocent victims of these despicable crimes. >> reporter: for almost eight years, pope benedict met the most arduous demands of the modern papacy. today he said that will end in just 17 days. the pope will eventually move into a monastery for cloistered nuns in the vatican. officials say he will dedicate his time to prayer and reflection. brian? >> richard engel, thanks. >>> for a lot of american catholics, this pope was a man whose name they heard once a week at mass. a relative enigma compared to john paul ii, of course. an old fashioned man in modern times. and now the question for catholics and their church becomes what next. nbc's anne thompson is here with us, with part of
, that has pope john paul ii blesses want faithful from his window. for the first time since announcing his resignation. a crowd of 50,000 fill would st. peter's square 11 days before the pope is stepping down. meanwhile the cardinals are areiching in rome to lobby for the next pope of the church. pastor of our lady. monsingor always good to see you. >> good to be with you, too. >> what direction will the church go and who will the cardinals pick? >> i think we have a couplele of issuings facing us. the need for a strong organizational leadership in rome. between the aging of john paul ii and a pope in the late cents and 80s and admits he's slowing down, a lot has been let g. we need a strong letter in rome and be directive . someone with john paul roim two's charis mareach out to the third world and europe and america where we have lost many, many catholics. i hope we have someone with a new vibrant vision and someone from the third world who puts us in church with want major i wanty of catholics in central and south america. >> there is it a discussion that the new pontiff could be from a
hagel gets blocked at least for now. rand paul and others are threatening to block john brennan. susan rice didn't get to the nomination process. is this rocky road if that's how we want to describe it, david, does this hurt the president's credibility or at least his ability to get things done, a small distraction, should it become a smaller one? put it into the wider con tech in terms of what the white house want to be accomplishing right now. >> it does take away according to past presidents, national security is where one says the president says it's a precedent to do this. it's a time that we have a lot of things going on in terms of the president's foreign policy, particularly in the middle east and withdraw in afghanistan coming to the fore and you need someone in the pentagon doing this. it can be seen as a nuisance in that the president want to be talking about his agenda, which is the gun control, immigration, things that people can get done. you have, of course, this sequester and the ongoing issue of the spending situation and taxes. so i think these are the things that the
that this pope hasn't done or even pope john paul ii that can change that perception? >> sure. i think that this pope certainly has had a papacy plagued with scandal and i think that was a clear signal to the next pope that their key task will be healing those divisions and that's going to come with more transparency and certainly transformation in our church. >> sister louise acres is a members of the sisters of charity. she was here on "jansing & co." yesterday. here's what she had to say about women in the church. >> i think the catholic church, the roman catholic church is probably one of the last bastians of sexism. i think there's a growing resistance to the status quo today and a growing movement to suggest changes. >> the sister went on to say that women in the priesthood could be one possible solution and i'm wondering what your reaction is to those comments? >> absolutely. i think it's one component of the transformation we need to see. but we can't just add women in stir, right? we need to fully transform our church, look at those policies and practices that we have that are
. >> and john paul would have been. >> a movie star. >> that gives you a sense of the different temperaments. yet the emotion that is now being really demonstrated as these cardinals say farewell face to face for the last time, all of them kissing the fisherman's ring which we know will be defaced and destroyed which benedict xvi's papacy ends. >> that's right. there are two instruments of the papal office, one is the ring and one is the official papal seal. the seal is kept in a safe in an office in the vatican. of course in the middle ages as you know, christiane be these were what were used to stamp paper bulls. which made them official. after a papacy had ended, someone might use the instruments to falsify papal documents. that's where the custom of destroying them came from. that will be honored at the end of benedict's papacy as well. >> thank you. we'll continue to watch this with all of you. back to you, john and zoraida in new york. >> it is interesting to see this as history is being made at the vatican. pope benedict xvi saying good-bye to the cardinals who have assembled and many
for being more consived than john paul 2nd. many say he is more scholarly. and sought to return the church to its roots and left a church reeling with sex scandals and declipping numbers. what else are experts saying about the legacy? >> well, he led the catholic church, of course, for seven years, ten months, and nine days, in total. a not insignificant time. experts all say he will be seen as a transitional rather than a transformational pope. that is not to say some of his actions weren't significant, though. for instance, they say that his outreach to the muslim world, including visiting the blue mosque in turkey, was a very significant action, and, according to greg tobin, he was the first pope to truly face up to see sex abuse scandal. listen. >> he will bled as someone who did more than anyone else before him, that's foresheet. john paul ii left a legacy of inaction and avoidance, and benedict faced it head on and before he became pope he was aware of many of these cases, and he also engaged in a personal outreach to victims in a way that no one has -- very few bishops in the world
the hottest sellers so far. and while pope benedict may be in the spotlight, pope john paul ii merchandise is the favorite among shoppers. he was certainly a favorite and on many people's minds. >> i was in rome, and the line was so long, and i didn't want to wait in line. >> amazon. >> that's true. you can order anything. >> can you get anything on that site. >>> time for an early look at what's coming up ahead and a look back. senators who disagree with the president on how to overhaul immigration will take their ideas to the top. nbc news has learned that republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham will head to the white house later today for talks on immigration. today marks the 20th anniversary of the deadly world trade center attack of 1993. six people were killed and more than 1,000 were injured when a bomb in the parking garage of the world trade complex. the bomb left a crater 60 feet wide and caused a collapse of several steel-reinforced concrete floors in the vicinity of that explosion. >>> on a much lighter note, singer michael bolton turns 60 years old today. >>> all da
at the vatican. pope benedict carries the stigma of not being as popular as his predecessor, john paul ii. the monsignor of the shrine in washington puts it in perspective. >> christ was controversial. the things that jesus did. the way that he reached out to people. the way he talked to people. the types of people he talked to. it upsettle, many people. >> reporter: and tom roberts points out that pope benedict will be remembered as well for doing more to actually address the abuse scandal than his predecessor john paul ii ever did. wolf. >> as you know, pope benedict was also involved in a controversy in the united states over the actions of some american nuns. remind our viewers about this. >> reporter: that's right, not long ago, some american nuns challenged the church's teachings on home sexuality, on the male only priesthood. they supported obama's health care plan when the church spoke out against it. these nuns ended up being reprimanded. the nuns got a lot of support within the united states for their actions. it was controversial for the pope. he was also prompted to do that by
. he says the pope didn't act until he received an explicit order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not really able to do much when he was still. john paul the second tended to be more skeptical about all the the accusations of sexual abuse. >>reporter: he says when benedict was elected in 2005 he was more willing to take action against these priests. and make it more public. lennon abused when he was 13 says he hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to demonstrate a morale authority as opposed to being in the dungeon of the vial corruption that it is now. >> this scan today has cost the catholic church more than 2 billion dollars in settlement. in san francisco, abc 7 news. >> one clergy man from california plans to vote for the next pope even though he has been banned from public duties because of the way he handles sexual abuse cases. cardinal roger mahoney used to head the archdiocese of los angeles. he was ban he should from most duties after it was revealed he mishandled cases involving
, in our lifetime, pope paul the vi was in his 80s and pope john paul ii was 85. it depends. it depends. what the cardinals are looking for, what the cardinals are seeking in someone to take pope benedict's place, in my mind, we watched pope john paul become a grandfather. pope benedict walked out on the world stage as a grandfather, it was a interesting and different experience of his fatherly qualities, as you know, from having met him, the gentle kind way that he had. but, you know, i think that depends on what the college of cardinals is looking for. pope benedict was a teacher and he spent his time teaching and he taught well and with great clarity. so, it is a matter of preference of the college of cardinals and as we believe in the church the working of the holy spirit. >> we will stay in close touch with you, bishop. thank you so much, and thank you for everything that you have done. thanks for inviting me to catholic university, i appreciate it and thank you for coming here to the situation room. >> it was great to be with you, wolf, you take care. god bless. >> a guy with a un
to function. even john john paul ii. what is it about this pope that he decided to step down? >> i think there are a couple of things going on there. with john paul ii he knew he was dying. i don't think benedict is so seriously ill that he's going to die but he could -- you know, live for another 10 years. he's got an older brother. and being in the papacy and not to be up for the job. so i think he decided that it was best for the church to go at this point and let someone else carry the burden. >> bill: now as "the new york times" says, the church is at a crossroads in the sense that where the church used to be strong, it is not so much anymore and it is in a developing world in africa and in south america and in asia where the church is showing great growth. what does that say about a future pope? >> well, there's two theories here. one is you go and find somebody from africa where the church is truly growing. on the other hand, the other theory is no, you look for someone who can deal with the problems of the church, where it has real big problems, namely europe where it is in decli
not been the most popular pope. he followed in the footsteps of john paul the ii who was such a global superstar. upon his departure a lot of people are feeling that they didn't really know what they would be missing. they've come to appreciate his cerebral intellect, his kindness, his gentle necessary and we spoke to gregg burke a short while ago, here is what he had to say about today. >> it's sad to see the pope leave saint peters, but on the other hand it's beautiful to see the pope happy and at peace. you can tell he is somebody who has been struggling physically. to think okay i'm not baggy to have all this weight on my shoulders is beautiful. >> gregg of course, one of our colleagues now working at the senior communications adviser for the vatican, very much in tune of what is going on and talked a lot about the serenity the pope is feeling now. there will be a short ceremony with the swiss guards. you may have seen footage of them colorfully dressed. that is the papal protection squad and the pope will board the helicopter to castle gandolfo where he will become pope emeritus a
political relevant today in some ways that it's ever been. think about it. we saw during john paul's reign that he played a central role in the collapse of european communism by inspiring the solidarity movement in poland. the people's power movement in the philippines that brought down the marxist regime would never have happened without the political involvement of the catholic church. scholars these days are writing books about the revenge of god, that religion is making a comeback as a political player. two-thirds of the 1.2 billion catholics in the world today live outside the west, and most live in societies where religion is critically important, so, yeah, i would say there's still some gas left in the church's political gas tank. >> john, real quickly, only a couple of seconds left here, but what do you know specifically in regards to what they are looking for for a pope? stances on abortion, same-sex marriage, that kind of thing. >> reporter: well, all these cardinals have been appointed by john paul and benedict so they are all in agreement on the main. of course they are looking
benedict is no longer the pope, he has to give up the shoes but remember, john paul ii wore the red shoes for a couple weeks early on in his pontificate, then wore brown ones. the pope can really do what he wants. he's the supreme pontiff, the supreme ruler of the church and he kind of can make the rules himself and benedict made these himself today. >> interesting. although as you said, raymond, i say this, you know, can't change the doctrine, right? you do everything. >> can't do that. he can protect the doctrine but not amend it. >> let me talk about one other thing. he wears a ring, fisherman's ring. describe it to me and why he's going to actually destroy it. it looks kind of fluorescent green or yellow on his finger. >> now, this goes back to 1265. pope clement iv referenced this ring in one of his letters to a nephew. it is the sign and seal of his office. when you look closely, you are seeing a picture there, it is a bas relief of st. peter leaning over the edge of the boat pulling in fish. this shows and indicates that the pope, whoever wears this ring, is the successor of st. pe
for this pope, but pope john paul ii, as well. the question of the pedophile scandals, the ongoing financial problems or complications or scandals of the vatican bank, which had a new president appointed on this last friday. obviously, there's a lot of talk about the changing nature of the catholic church. today, only one in four catholics lives in europe. most live in north america, south america, asia and africa. so, really, it's going to be a time for the church to redefine itself looking towards those areas where its numbers are growing. christi? >> going to be interesting to see if they choose a pope that is european or perhaps of another heritage. thank you, ben wedemen, we appreciate you bringing us the latest from rome there. >>> coming up in our 8:00 hour, we'll look at the intrigue and the secrecy in the church, as well as hollywood's obsession with the vatican. >>> so, i want to get you to washington now. take a look at this live picture of one beautiful sunrise. good morning to all of you waking up in that in d.c. and you know what else, folks are waking up to a first draft of th
have some of the wisdom of pope benedict and some of the charisma of pope john paul ii. >> reporter: there are several candidates to succeed pope benedict xvi but none considered a front-runner. cbs news, vatican city. >>> there's a $1 million bounty on the head of christopher dorner, the fugitive ex-cop charged with murdering a california policeman. dorner accused in a deadly revenge vendetta against other officers is a target of a massive search. the search has been focused on the mountains about 80 miles east of los angeles. court papers reveal authorities now believe dorner may have fled to mexico and may have had help doing so. >>> two reputed chicago gang members have been charged in the shooting death of hadiya pendleton who died days after she performed at president obama's inauguration. 18-year-old michael ward and 20-year-old kenneth williams said pendleton was not the intended target. they thought they were firing on a rival gang. pendleton's parents will attend the state of the union address tonight. >>> coming up in the morning news, stranded ship
, these cardinals have been appointed by pope benedict xvi and john paul ii so i don't think we'll see a situation of conflict. >> pelley: why can't the vatican seem to settle on a date for the conclave to begin to select the new pope? >> well, part of it is logistical. we have to wait until the pope actually leaves, which will happen on thursday. and then on friday we begin the period of the sette vacantis the vacant seat. and this is all regulated within the vatican rules and they will need time, of course, to set up the sistine chapel, to set up the logistical aspects of holding a conclave within itself. and then they will need some time to meet in order to discuss exactly who their preferred candidate will be. so i think if we're looking at a week, that's moving pretty quickly for the vatican. >> pelley: delia gallagher in st. peter's square in rome thank you so much. what's behind an increase in teen driving deaths? the supreme court takes up a challenge to a landmark civil rights law. and a hot air balloon tragedy when the "cbs evening news" continues. from washington. washington. i have low
for -- as someone put it, i think -- a cardinal who is the secretary of pope john paul ii is now the archbishop of poland. they said, why didn't he resign when he was old in sick, he said, he continue come down off the cross. there is a lot to be said forbearing one's burden to the end. but i do think that it's been hundreds of years since the last pope resigned. i wouldn't be surprised if we saw it happen again in the next hundred years. his resignation i think in service of the church has actually said this is an act of humility. people talk about how can one give up such a big and important and powerful position, i think there is also another way that this is humble, it's not lost upon the pope that in stepping down it may be perceived that this is an act of weakness or abandonment and i think that probably in many ways for this man, being sort of the kind, gentleman he is was probably more difficult for him than walking away from all the trappings of the papacy. jenna: your quick thoughts on the legacy he leaves behind. >> there are two things he'll be remembered for. one it's bringing the
john paul ii. >> reporter: er pope will need to -- the pope will need to cope with increasing scandals. the pope may be from somewhere else. >> the church is exploding in growth, particularly in particular came. and -- in africa. certainly about half of the world's catholic are in america. i think there are strong candidates from those two continents and asia as well. >> reporter: the list also contains three italians and a canadian. as for front runners as of now, reports there are none. just a lot of men to choose from but not a lot of time in which to do it. the church says expect your new pope by easter sunday, march 31. derek mcginty, wusa9. >>> it is 4:35 now. here's a look at some of the other stories making news now. >> police received 600 calls when it comes to the whereabouts of former lapd officer christopher dorner. there are reports he may northbound mexico. he's accused of killing three people in revenge for being fired from the los angeles police department. there's a $1 million reward being offered for his capture. police are warning people dorner is extremely dangerous
. >>> no answers on drones, no confirmation, the threat from congressman rand paul to cia director nominee john brennan. paul's concern? drone strikes against u.s. citizens within the united states. the kentucky congressman says he will do whatever it takes to delay brennan's confirmation until he addresses the legality of the issue of drones. >>> at 7:00 it's happening at offices, in the bedroom, even on some news sets we're told. we'll introduce you to the harlem shake. it's a little scary at 7:00. >> must not be a dance. >> maybe it is. maybe it's not. >> still ahead this half hour we learned more about the design for somebody who can get you up and make you dance. this is the chuck brown memorial atlantic >>> tonight at 8:00 it's the 90 minute premier of the 26th season. survivor hits fans versus favorites. d.c. contestants john cochran and laura alexander will be part of it all. >>> today is ash wednesday. with that pope benedict the 16th delivered his final public mass. catholics packed st. peter's pa silica to get one last look at the -- basilica to get one last look at the retiring pon
remember how pope john paul ii was so young when he was elected. i think he was 56 or 57. a young man. >> he used to go skiing all the time. >> he was elected when he was 78 years old. >> yeah. so we watched him turn into an elderly man that was very frail. remember how long it took, we waited and waited. i can remember i was on a plane when he finally passed. but he didn't -- i mean, he was not healthy at the end and he didn't resign. so that's what i don't really understand, ross, right? >> well, traditionally, they haven't resigned. so -- >> 1415, yeah. >> so he's 2005, he's 86. so that's five, six, seven, eight -- >> i think what we're all dancing around the issue of whether or not there's more to it, right? is that what we're getting at? >> is there something else we don't know about. >> all of them have gotten elderly and they have essentially died in office and that's when they begin to look for a new pope. that is no happening in this case. >> right. you said it would be pure speculation. it's probably best not to specula speculate, at least you filled us in that at this point
from a historical context. we need to update this law in this part of it is no longer needed." >> john paul stevens said in a supreme court decision that the plaintiffs had failed to make the case that this voter id law is one to be a hindrance or impediment to anyone voting. and, i might add, when the state of georgia passed their voter id law, we saw in the fact the opposite of what the liberals and civil rights organizations allege. in the state of georgia, we saw black voter participation increase after the state of georgia passed their voter id law. these two examples are in direct conflict with what people like hilary shelton of the naacp argue, the leadership conference on civil rights, aclu, lead of voters -- all of these groups allege that voter id is going to be an impediment for people to go out and vote. minorities, in particular. elderly. that is just not the case. >> that is cherylyn harley lebon of project 21. >> this is the situation. she needs to get down in the weeds in she's going to talk about the issues. she was talking about georgia. because of our effort, it is t
. the other 50 were appointed by his predecessor, pope john paul ii. so, directly, no, he will not have any input into the conclave, but, indirectly, because he had such an important role in appointing those cardinals, he will have some role to play, but not directly, as i said. christi? >> ben wedemen, thank you so much as we look at live pictures there from vatican tv. >>> coming up in our 8:00 hour here, we'll take a closer look at the intrigue and the secrecy in the church, as well as hollywood's obsession with the vatican, you know, it's there. >>> i want to talk to you about what's happening back here at home. a blinding whiteout in detroit. this is on a major freeway. no immediate reports of fatal y fatalities. 44 vehicles that collided saturday on interstate 75. listen it to this couple who was caught in the middle of that i-75 smash up. >> it was just like somebody suddenly threw a white sheet across the windshield and we couldn't see anything. >> you could hear all the cars banging. >> detroit is not the only place getting snow. here's meteorologist samantha mohr with more of our
succeed pope john paul ii. >> joining us is from the school of law. >> glad to be with you. >> one of my first questions, we think about the catholic church, it's been underfire and i know that you are very concerned about the moral decline of the world in general. so, when you think about the next pope, you've got to have to have somebody who will adapt and adhere to the catholic belief system. >> that's right, and i'm confident that the conclave will pick someone like that, an extremely good successor not just to benedict, but john paul iv. ap they had the history, the back-to-back, and i think there are a lot of cardinals out there who could fill those shoes. >> since you have an accurate track record of predicting the next pope, who is in the running? >> well, i'm not sure that i actually predicted it. i hoped that he would be the choice. and-- >> that's close enough. >> i don't know. you know, at this point, i don't think there's any front runner, and i think it is really impossible to predict who it's going to be. but, obviously, you have your favorites choices. i think that las ve
learned about it, and ratzinger did nothing for ten years. he was so close to john paul, too, that he took him on plane rides with him and did everything he could to support him. when the news came out about what a horrendous person he was ratzinger said he has done so much for the church, how can we attack him? by good for the church, he meant that he raised lots of money. he raised more money than anyone else in the church. he was close toed bloody dictator of peru, who tortured and killed over a thousand priests, nuns, and lay workers during his reign. and so, that connection is there. it cannot be erased. and ratzinger it stops at his desk. >> cenk: it sounds like you're describing a fundamentally corrupt church, would you go that far? >> absolutely. journalists are doing that. every day there is a new scandal. as a theologian, i see this, in fact, as good news. i think the holy spirit has given us two sk. >> joy: smatic folks and we can start the church all over again. we can go back to the real teachings of jesus. it's about love and justice. it's not complicated. and we don't need t
of state. neither john paul ii nor benedict were managers by nature. >> reporter: benedict's failures, made public in documents leaked by his butler last year laying out betrayals and in-fighting in the vatican bureaucracy. obscuring the pope's message and hurting his records to revitalize the church. how much of that can be blamed on the curiae? >> most of it, frankly. >> reporter: george weibel says it leaves the next pope with a crucial task. >> he has to find someone who can clean house and make the curiae an instrument of what we call the new evan gelzation, not an impediment to it. >> that was anne thompson reporting. the pope's message in spanish caused speculation that a he wants his successor to come from latin america because he asked them to pray for him and the future pope in spanish. >> a second helping for snow in the northeast this weekend. snow fell from pittsburgh to rhode island. slick road conditions caused the crash that killed one person in pennsylvania. many in new england were still digging out from the blizzard a week ago when the second storm hit. rhode island got u
who make the pilgrimage here buy all sorts of le -- religious souvenirs. many still have pope john paul ii. the election of the new pope is also expected to bring an economic boom to rome. >> we're increasing all our services. social services. all of our security. >> reporter: 4 million pill pilgrims came for the last conclave in 2005. the city of rome is getting ready for the same number this time. at the vatican, danielle nottingham, wjz eyewitness news. >> and the vatican acknowledged for the first time that pope benedict hit his head in a hotel room during a trip to mexico last year. church officials say the accident has nothing to do with the pontiff's decision, though, to retire. >>> still ahead on eyewitness news. not a bad man. why two of ex-lapd christopher dorner's final victims say they felt compassion for their captor. >>> i'm bob turk in the first warning weather center. after a warmer friday, more wintry precip is possible. i'll have the exclusive first warning five-day forecast. >>> and here's today's cold, cough and flu repor
. john boehner, eric cantor, and paul ryan, and paul ryan and cantor are going to keep boehner to the right. i mean, cantor and ryan's advisors have told us privately there is no opening for tax revenue in this deal at all. i'm want sure if john boehner would do it independently of them, but the people that we've seen who have been completely ineffective are the people on the house armed services committee, the people who make these decisions usually, but the chairman has not been able to sway boehner at all. we've seen the stalemate because of that, and cantor and rooen are going to keep boehner on the right. >> people outside the process are saying this is the dumbest way to do business, to have a meat ax approach and have across the board cuts. yes, it does achieve some budget savings, but does it not in any kind of intelligent way of planning. >> which is why if you talk to the people on capitol hill, the people who are making these decisions, they say that down the road if there are huge economic damages -- i mean, we don't really know what's going to happen to the economy
. >> well said. >> amen. >> i think it shows a lot of humility. in april of 2005 when pope john paul ii died we broadcasted "hardball" from rome. as we closed our last show from there, let's listen. look at these people standing for hours, day and night, through the avenues of rome, packed together as if they had been caught and crushed in an industrial strength trash compacter. there they stood seeking no edge, plotting no photo opportunity, playing none of the games that people do in politics, in business, in so much of life. this is no pub lisible stunt or initial stock offering or inside deal or anything but the purest most obvious most grandly transparent display of individual devotion. voting with your feet. >> thanks four your wise and warm words. thanks for coming on and enl deon, mr. america and french canadian and all kind of things. >>> dick cheney from the sublime to the ridiculous. dick cheney can't stand the fact that his side lost the election, dick. that he and his neocons are under assault and in retreat thank god. he's saying president obama is picking second class people.
. i was here when pope john paul ii died in 2005, and it was completely different atmosphere. on this occasion, very much an opportunity for people, the faithful, to come and contemplate the legacy of pope benedict. many appreciated him as a teacher, a thinker, an intellectual. somebody who had the courage to confront many of the issues that have plagued the church over the last decade or so. the question of, for instance, pedophilia and the priesthood and other things. very much what they heard from people is they appreciated him as someone who faced and grappled with serious issues and appreciated the fact that he had the courage to step down at this point in his life. >> ben wedeman for thus morning. thank you for the update. you can hear them breaking down from the mass said a little bit this morning. here is what will happen from now on from here. pope benedict xvi has amended the conclave law. they don't have to wait for 16 days after the papacy is vacant. cardinals under the age of 80 will take part. four ballots a day. b ballots get counted twice daily. and dark smoke
choosing a quieter life. so very different from his predecessor john paul who stayed until the very end. anthony from pennsylvania witnessed both pope's last sermons. >> they're courage in different ways. in opposite ways but the same degree of courage. >> reporter: the pope summoning the strength to say good-bye, giving up one of the most powerful roles on earth. meeting publicly with the faithful one last time. >> savannah as the pope got up to leave. there was a wave of emotion. people calling out to him, waving good-bye. many people held up banners saying thank you in return. pope benedict told the faithful i have never felt this way. >> thank you. greg burke is the senior communications adviser just with the pope in the final audience. good morning it's good to see you. >> good morning. >> sometimes tone can be lost in translation. you heard this address. how does the pope seem to you these last few days? what's his mood? . he's a serene person. i have known him as cardinal ratzinger. he took a lot of hits from john paul ii. i see him now calmer than ever. he showed a little emotio
and pope john paul ii. you can see who pope benedict chose for whatever reasons. i don't think he has a favorite. and he's certainly not going to show that he has a favorite in these days. >> okay. greg burke, thanks very much for your insight. elizabeth? >> unchartered territory. >>> turning, now, to the latest on that frantic manhunt for the rogue expolice officer, christopher dorner, on the run right now. we showed you the surveillance video that surfaced overnight. could it be a clue to where he is at this moment? abc's pierre thomas is tracking the latest on this story. in los angeles. pierre, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, elizabeth. it's becoming clear dorner could be anywhere. and this morning, there's evidence the hunt for him has gone international. overnight, police conducted a raid at this hotel in tijuana, mexico. they apparently found no evidence he was there. but for days, customs officials have been hunting for dorner along the southern border. and there's new details this morning about dorner's possible movements in the days before the shootings. tmz obtaine
't happened in 600 years or so. i've read where even the private secretary to pope john paul the ii is criticizing this pope or critical of the decision at least to decide to step down before death. >> reporter: i read that as well, and since then that secretary, the private secretary has sent out context on that and said he didn't mean to be critical cat all. in essence what he was saying was, you carry the cross until the very end. but pope benedict the xvi says i know what my duties are, i know what i have to do for the people of the church, i've got even so old, i'm so frail and my mind is that i don't feel like i can do it any more. so he says nor the goo for the gaffe the church i havchurch i haven't step down. the last time it happened in 1415 edward the xii was dealing with multiple people trying to be the pope and times were very difficult, because the church was the law at the time almost exclusively. times are quite different. this pope said look i think this is the right thing to do and now the cardinals will come in and choose another. there is a great deal of anticipat
stepped down, because, remember, he watched john paul ii's demise and watched his powers fade, and what happens when a pope declines in power, the bureaucracy in inevitably increases. and i don't think he particularly enjoyed what was happening aat that time and may be seeing tremors again. and he decided to go ahead and retire early. >> let's stay on successors for a moment. any possibility that an american would -- we have dolan on there. is there any possibility we could see an american pope? >> i love cardinal dolan. i have known him since he was a priest. if i could elect a pope, i would elect dolan. but half of these election fors are europeans, the other half are predominantly africans and asians. the likelihood of them electing an american pope is remote. america has such a huge influence on the world to give them a papacy would be a bridge too far. that was the mind-set into the last conclave. look for a european, right now, if you were -- you know, begging me to give you an answer, i would probably say look at cardinal oullette from canada, who the pope incidentally sort of an
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